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{Positively Sex! Episode 1} What is sex, anyway?

in episodes, Positively Sex! on 13/10/22

Positively Sex! Sex Ed, with Pleasure // Episode 1. What is sex, anyway? Image by Eric Vogel 


Let’s redefine sex!

“So I’m looking out the window at this brick wall thinking That’s it. That’s sex? That’s what all the movies are about? That’s what all the TV shows are about. That’s what all the, the epic poems are about? That’s sex? That can’t be sex. Is that really sex?

Because if that’s sex, then, I don’t like sex very much. And that sucks because it seems like this is one of the most epic experiences of people’s lives. But I don’t like it. I like the other stuff much more. I like tongues. I like kissing. I like biting. I like spanking. But I guess I don’t like sex. And I felt that way for years, until a lover introduced me to lube.”

Welcome to Positively Sex! Sex Ed, with Pleasure, a sex-positive talk show on timely, titillating, tender, and sometimes taboo themes.

Most of us were taught — if we were taught anything about sex at all — that sex is about procreation. And so, most of us grew up believing the only real sex is the kind you can make a baby with.

If babymaking sex is not the definition you want to go by anymore — and it’s certainly not the one I want to go by anymore — then I have a question: What is sex, anyway?

So I took to the parks and the streets of my city: New York City — a place where you can find every kind of person and every sort of opinion on any given corner.

People seem to be thinking more deliberately about sex than ever before.

And that, darling, is Positively Sex!

P.S. Mwah!

PS! Episode 1: What is sex, anyway?

[00:00:00] PDN 1: What is sex? Can you just remind me what sex is? 

[00:00:08] LILA: I didn’t have penis-in-vagina sex until I was 19 years old, and I wasn’t waiting for marriage; I wasn’t waiting for even a relationship. I was just waiting for it to feel right. When I had that experience, it’s not because it felt right actually, but because… people wouldn’t have sex with me because they were afraid of the responsibility of having sex with a virgin. They thought I was gonna imprint on them and I guess become obsessed with them. Almost as soon as they found out that I was a virgin, they pushed me away and were not interested in engaging with me then. And I thought, what a, what a ridiculous thing that this, this, because I haven’t done this one time, the people I wanna do this with won’t do this with me. 

[00:01:06] What the fuck? Where’s the fuck actually, right?! 

[00:01:11] This was in the very early days of online dating, and it was actually so early that I wasn’t sure I really wanted to do it. So this is 2001, probably. It’s maybe the summer after my freshman year, my first year of college, and I was visiting my friend at her college, and she was a technologically savvy woman, and she was already online on nerve.com, and nerve.com, which most people don’t know these days, was an incredible website on the vanguard of sexuality. It had erotica, it had photo essays, and it had this Personals section, which, you know, people were not doing online personals, people were doing… maybe you know, the Craigslist thing was happening and that was relatively shady and it didn’t seem like, you know, the thing for a college girl to do.

[00:02:08] But my friend convinced me that this was not weird and that people were doing it and that these were also really interesting folks. These were the artists; these were the early adopters. These were the young entrepreneurs who were getting involved in online dating in this, in these early days. So I went on and I saw this photo of this blonde-haired, blue-eyed, Viking looking goateed man. And I just dropped my panties right there and reached out to him and he got back to me and we, we went out and this man was, I think he was 29 at the time. I think he turned 30 during the time that we were going out together. 

[00:02:52] By the way, he never said ever that we were dating. He never admitted to dating me. He was embarrassed to be seen with me, actually. He later told me he was embarrassed by the way that I dress. I mean, listen, I was 19 years old and I didn’t have the money to dress the way that I wanted to dress. I had the taste, but not the capital. So I felt really hurt when he said that to me. Well, if you want me to dress a certain way, you could – he could have bought me clothes, right? Because he was an entrepreneur, and he had sold his first business that he started in college, dropped outta college, made a bunch of money, and sold this business. And now he had a loft in Soho. And I thought that was so fucking sexy. I mean, I still think that’s sexy. 

[00:03:37] So, I would spend a bunch of time at this loft in Soho, and I insisted that I wanted him to be my first, my first penis-in-vagina experience. We’d had oral sex. He was the one actually, I can credit him for introducing me to kink because he spanked me. He bit me, he pulled my hair, and I think he, he was the one who kinked me. And I’m very grateful because I love all of those things to this day. So, yeah. Thank you for that. My, my first, Thank you for that. [Although, I don’t necessarily consider him my first anymore, but! Here’s what happened.] 

[00:04:21] I insisted that I wanted him to have sex with me, but I was really afraid. I was afraid that it was gonna hurt and I was afraid it was gonna hurt because I was really tight. My vagina itself was just really tight, and I knew this because every time I inserted a tampon, I would cry from the chafing because it was so uncomfortable. [I don’t use tampons anymore. Now we have innovations like period underwear, which is fantastic, and cups and yay for that. But I knew.] And a gynecologist told me, “Yeah, you actually are tighter than the average woman.”

[00:04:56] So I was extra, extra worried. I don’t know if that’s true, by the way, that I’m tighter than the average woman, but I do know that I was stressed about it. And when you’re stressed about it, you clamp up and you squeeze and you bear down and you contract. So, of course it was gonna hurt because I was so, so, so, so afraid of it hurting.

[00:05:17] So I asked him if he had any drugs. And he did. He was like, “You know, I had back surgery recently. I’ve got Tylenol with codeine if you want it.” And I said, “Yes, I will take some of that Tylenol with codeine. Thank you very much.” And I took it and it didn’t hurt! It also didn’t feel much like anything at all.

[00:05:40] And I remember I have a visceral memory and I don’t have a lot of memories, so this is indelible to me. I have a visceral memory of lying in his bed in his loft in Soho with big expanse of white sheets and high thread count linens and looking out the window, which didn’t look out to any kind of nature.

[00:06:02] It looked out to another brick wall because New York City. So I’m looking out the window at this brick wall thinking That’s it. That’s sex? That’s what all the movies are about? That’s what all the TV shows are about. That’s what all the, the epic poems are about? That’s sex? That can’t be sex. Is that really sex?

[00:06:28] Because if that’s sex, then, I don’t like sex very much. And that sucks because it seems like this is one of the most epic experiences of people’s lives. But I don’t like it. I like the other stuff much more. I like tongues. I like kissing. I like biting. I like spanking. But I guess I don’t like sex. And I felt that way for years until a lover introduced me to lube. Use lube. Use lube friends! It can make a very difficult, untenable, painful situation so smooth. 

[00:07:12] So that was my first experience and when most people say, “Tell me about the time you lost your virginity,” that’s what I tell them about. It wasn’t very good and I didn’t know that it was going to get better.

[00:07:38] We are now in an unprecedented time for human sexuality, particularly in the United States. The invention of birth control made it possible for people to have sex with only a slim chance of babies. 

[00:07:50] The fact that in the past 50 years, and only in the past 50 years, mind you, women gain the right to own property, open a bank account, have a credit card in their own name meant that women are now making money at all and more money than we ever have in the past, though still not equal money. And this means that less women stay in sexless relationships or ones in which the sex isn’t good for them, for fear of being unable to eat, pay, rent, and or provide for their children.

[00:08:20] And readily available treatment for STIs and medication like Prep means that sex, while always a risky endeavor, is much less risky than it ever has been. There has never been this much freedom in the entire history of sexuality, and yet if we were taught anything about sex at all, we were probably taught that sex is about procreation.

[00:08:45] PDN 2: When… it’s funny, first time I ever heard someone explain sex to me as a little kid: “When the penis enters the vagina!” 

[00:08:54] LILA: And so most of us grew up believing that the only sex that counts, the only sex that is real sex is the kind in which a baby could be made. This is how you have the phenomenon of what I’ve heard called a Catholic virgin: a woman who takes it in the ass, but not the pussy, or a person, usually a woman, though I’ve personally known at least one man like this, who is known for doing everything but. 

[00:09:20] In this worldview of sex, oral sex doesn’t count. For me, as a great advocate and appreciator of oral sex, oral sex definitely counts, and it’s in the title: oral sex. So. If baby-making sex is not the definition you wanna go by anymore, and it’s certainly not the one I wanna go by anymore, then I have a question: What is sex anyway? When does making out or fooling around become sex? What’s the tipping point? Is sex when it gets serious? Not serious as in marriage or the relationship escalator, but serious as in serious. Serious as in: we’re doing things that aren’t legal to do in public serious. 

[00:10:11] I’m gonna tell you what I think sex is, but first I really wanted to hear what you thought. So I took to the parks and the streets of my city, New York City, a place where you can find every kind of person and every sort of opinion on any given corner. 

[00:10:29] When I asked people about sex, they spoke to me about energy. 

[00:10:34] PRIDE 1: You give yourself to someone like, whole, you know, whole in whole, and then someone gives themselves to you and then you exchange what you have with them and them with you.

[00:10:44] It can be debilitating, but then it can also be beautiful, like it can be like, like, you know, ’cause it can, you can exchange energies with the wrong person and that can be chaotic, but then you can exchange energies with the right person and that can be beautiful, because not only are you taking on their energy, but they’re taking yours on as well. And then you start to like mirror some of the same characteristics, some of the same traits and yeah, it’s beautiful. I wanna have like good sex with someone that has good intentions and, and good, a good mindset for me because then I’m taking that on. And if you have a bad mindset and we’re having sex, then I’m taking that on too. But if it’s a good mindset and you know you have good intentions and I’m taking that on, it feels great. Not only- ’cause sex is not only just physical, it’s spiritual and emotional and mental, very mental. There are people I’ve had sex with before and I still feel their energy within me.

Field recording at the Personal Development Nerds picnic in Prospect Park // July 2022

[00:11:45] PDN 1: I think any energy that starts to bring two or more things together, so it’s just an interconnection that will eventually bring two beings to interact with each other. Maybe sex isn’t as literal as you might find an dictionary. 

[00:12:04] LILA: You said sex is expensive. 

[00:12:08] PDN 3: Yes. Yes it is. Sex is expensive, and it is not expensive financially. It’s expensive emotionally and spiritually. You indulge in someone’s full emotional and energetic load when you enter that space with them. You become one for a time and you don’t just as simply become two, cleanly cut off, right thereafter. There’s an expenditure of energy, and I don’t just mean physically. And hopefully, with the highest quality connections, it’s actually a investment and expansion of energy, after sex with someone you trust that’s, you know, beautiful and juicy, you feel like you, you feel more alive.

[00:12:55] LILA: They spoke to me about emotions. 

[00:12:57] PRIDE 2: It’s giving in to pleasure and happiness and love, and being able to have an intimate moment with someone else. 

[00:13:09] PRIDE 3: Say you couldn’t be sexually intercourse by the genitals or anything like that. What else do you have? To me, it’s all about love. Love and appreciating a person that you’re with. You can actually have sex and not have to ejaculate or anything. Literally, I’ve learned I’m 40 years old and I’ve learned in my years that I can even be sexually satisfied by even staring at a person’s eyes. Or them breathing on me, or them just touching me with the tip of their finger and like my body goes crazy. And to me, I’m like sexually fulfilled because I’m like, Oh my God, that was amazing. So it doesn’t have to technically be intercourse or anything like that. 

[00:13:58] Sex is that feeling of like sparkle. That feeling of, Ooh, okay, this is not me just being happy. I feel a tingle, I feel a warmth, I feel a burn. I feel a yearn, like, there’s something I want. So, love is a connection with that other person or with the circumstance in itself. Sex is more about the feeling you feel inside while love is the feeling you share.

[00:14:28] PDN 4: I think sex with someone you love means love, almost like, I wouldn’t say it’s 1-to-1. I’m not the kind of person that says, I love you during missionary. 

[00:14:40] LILA: But that’s so good! It’s so good! Oh my God I love being like, I love you! I love you! I love you! I love you! 

[00:14:46] PDN 4: I’ll try it. There’s definitely a thin, a line between, like a thin line between sex and love. But it gets blurrier every day for me, which is scary. I’m scared of that. I’m scared of a lot of things, but sex, sex means almost love. I want it to mean, to mean love. Yeah. 

[00:15:15] LILA: Vulnerability. 

[00:15:17] PDN 3: Sex also pushes some of my edges of intimacy too, of how deeply I allow myself to be loved or how, how fully I can embrace being seen. Eye contact during sex, extended eye contact during sex is quite the, quite the knife’s edge to dance on.

[00:15:44] KOSTUME KULT 1: Consent and intimacy and vulnerability. I think vulnerability is important too, but not everyone can get there with sex, but I think that maybe it’s a goal for me at least, personally. 

[00:15:57] LILA: So if it’s not vulnerable, is it still sex? 

[00:16:02] KOSTUME KULT 1: I think so. I think so, because I wanna recognize that not everyone feels safe to feel vulnerable in a situation that may be sex for them. So I think that that’s so valid. 

[00:16:15] LILA: And I suppose it’s then really important to ask you: What is vulnerability? 

[00:16:23] KOSTUME KULT 1: That’s a really good question. So interesting to think about how you would define that. I think for me, vulnerability is: allowing someone to see parts of you that feel difficult, that feel real, that feel important to you. Like for example, if you share something with someone and there’s a potential that it could be, um, it could, it could bring up some difficult emotions, that feels really vulnerable to me. ‘Cause you’re allowing someone into your, to your personal life in a way that now they hold something about you that’s so important that it could potentially be hurtful.

[00:17:05] LILA: That is a really good distinguishing characteristic I think that: something shared, which, if not held with care, could harm. Yeah, and I think that what that also allows is for it to be a spectrum, like some people with their vulnerability are comfortable like disclosing trauma. Other could just be something that’s important to them where if like, you disagree, that’s still hurtful. So it’s such a spectrum and I like that vulnerability means something different for everyone, and I find that even my definition of sex and vulnerability change based on the relationships that I’m in and the ways that the people that I’m having sex with or the people that I’m being vulnerable with, because, you also have to consider what they think sex is and what they think vulnerability is. Otherwise, that idea of consent comes into play. Like if you, you don’t wanna like put your idea of sex or your idea of vulnerability onto them in case it feels uncomfortable. Or unsafe.

[00:17:59] PDN 4: I think when two people sort of connect on a different way than they would, or more than two people and, that they would normally. In public, I guess. 

[00:18:15] LILA: Can you describe the, the quality of the difference? 

[00:18:22] PDN 4: The difference between public and sex, I would say is vulnerability. When you’re having sex, you’re more vulnerable than you are outside of sex, and you’re trusting yourself to be vulnerable and you’re trusting your partner or partners to be vulnerable, and it’s that trust and that vulnerability that makes it different from day to day life. 

[00:19:00] LILA: Fun. 

[00:19:01] PRIDE 5: Just a good time. 

[00:19:03] PRIDE 6: Sex to me is just having fun with bodies. 

[00:19:06] PRIDE 7: I mean, the top, I’d say number one thing, sex is fun. That’s the most important thing about sex to me. Just fun. 

[00:19:15] LILA: And then they spoke to me about bodily fluids, genitals, and penetration. Some thought the tipping point was any kind of interaction with the genitals. 

[00:19:25] KOSTUME KULT 2: When you put your naughty bits on somebody else’s naughty bits. 

[00:19:31] LILA: Are, are the bits required? Is that what makes it sex?

[00:19:36] KOSTUME KULT 2: I, I think in a, in a technical term, I think bits are required, or at least hands or mouths or butts or something. Yeah. 

[00:19:45] LILA: Are hands naughty bits? 

[00:19:48] KOSTUME KULT 2: Well, I guess hands are, no. Well, depends on the context in which they’re used. 

[00:19:54] LILA: Some found the tipping point to be- 

[00:19:55] PRIDE 8: Bodily fluids. Some form of a fluid. 

[00:19:59] LILA: A fluid exchange. 

[00:20:01] KOSTUME KULT 1: For me, fluid swapping is always sex. So kissing is always sex. Uh, any type of oral sex ending that involves fluid swapping is always sex and it’s really vulnerable for me. But I’ve had interactions where like there may just be touching that doesn’t involve fluid swapping. And I like, when someone’s asked me, “How many people have you slept with?” I’ll leave that person off the list, because even if there, even though there was genital interactions, there was no fluid swapping. So for me, it didn’t really fit my definition of sex.

[00:20:33] LILA: Others agree that the tipping point for them is penetration of some kind, any kind. 

[00:20:40] PRIDE 9: What counts as sex? Like are we, this is a broad question. Are we talking penetration? Are we talking oral? Does anal count? Is it just being intimate with someone and being close with them, body on body. Sex, to me, by definition, is intercourse between two people…

[00:21:08] No! Sex is being with someone. Sex is penetration of some sort, whether it’s fingers, uh, penis, um, I don’t know if sex would mean if you could have sex with a strap on or a dildo. Yeah, I would count that too. 

[00:21:28] LILA: If there’s no penetration, is it sex? 

[00:21:33] PRIDE 9: If there’s no penetration of any type, if nothing is going into an orifice of some type, then I’m gonna, I’m gonna say no.

[00:21:46] LILA: Cunnilingus isn’t sex? 

[00:21:50] PRIDE 9: That is sex. 

[00:21:52] LILA: But only if the tongue penetrates? 

[00:21:54] PRIDE 9: Um, if it’s between someone’s lips, I consider that personal space. We’ll say, yes, that’s penetration, or even licking someone’s ass can be considered a sexual act and sex. 

[00:22:13] LILA: So it’s about entering someone’s personal space. 

[00:22:17] PRIDE 9: Yes. Even if they don’t consider it personal to them.

[00:22:23] LILA: Deeply personal space. That’s really interesting to me because the places that you mentioned are a, a softer kind of tissue. Right? It’s a different kind of skin. The inner lips of the pussy, the anus, the inside of the mouth. It’s a different type of skin. 

[00:22:44] People seem to be thinking more deliberately about sex than ever before. This gives me tremendous hope. When I sought the most expansive possible ideas about sex, I turned to the queer community. I went out to Washington Square Park at the tail end of the Queer Liberation March in my rainbow pasties and feathers, and I got to talk to this group of the most well spoken, joyfully expressed young people. This is what they said. 

Field recording at the Queer Liberation March (PRIDE 2022) @ Washington Square Park in New York, NY // June 2022

[00:23:11] What is sex? 

[00:23:13] PRIDE 10: Whatever you want it to be. Sex, especially queer sex, it’s whatever you call it. Is that fingering? Is that oral? I don’t know. Is that just heavy petting? That’s entirely up to you. That’s between you and whoever else is involved. 

[00:23:28] PRIDE 11: Sex is vulnerability. It’s this deeper understanding that you are opening yourself up to someone in a way that can’t be replicated. Like, if you’ve had sex with someone, it doesn’t mean you’ve had sex with someone else in the same way that you had sex with the first person. It’s, it’s a means to communicate something that you can’t do any other way. 

[00:23:49] PRIDE 12: Sex is whatever you want it to be. You don’t have to define a single action or act or motion as sex. If you wanna say you’re having sex, then you’re having sex. And it’s also gonna be different for every person. So you could even be in an instance where someone was like, That wasn’t sex. That was just like fooling around. And someone could be like, Yeah, no, that was sex. 

[00:24:11] PRIDE 7: If you’re like, Damn, I just had sex, then you just had sex. No matter like what you did. I would say like nudity is part of it generally, but that’s about it. 

[00:24:24] LILA: What does sex mean to you? 

[00:24:26] PRIDE 7: Oh, Sex is fun. Sex is connection. If it’s T for T sex, it’s like power and holy and sacred is what it means to me. Like getting off, having fun with somebody that you connect with, getting sweaty. Yeah. 

[00:24:45] LILA: Do you have to get off for it to be sex? 

[00:24:47] PRIDE 7: No, I sometimes don’t, but it’s fine. It happens. Bodies are weird. Whatever. You don’t have to get off. Nobody has to get off. 

[00:24:58] Can you tell me what T for T sex is? 

[00:25:00] Oh my God. T for T is Trans for Trans. I, as a trans person, feel the most connected to other trans people. I think they’re super hot and sexy, and I love the way that I can emotionally connect with a trans person and not feel like I have to explain myself. And being a trans person, having sex with another trans person is just one of the most affirming things in the whole world and is wonderful.

[00:25:26] LILA: And I thought: The kids are all right! What they were all describing to me is what I’ll call radical agency. The ability, no, the right, to define sexuality and sexual activity and gender for that matter, according to their own internal compasses and nothing else. 

[00:25:47] There are so many reasons why we might choose to engage in sex, play, friendship, bonding, romantic love, recreation, intimacy, healing, intrigue, work performance, and procreation. And when chosen deliberately in sound mind, they are all valid. 

[00:26:09] Expanding my own definition of sex allowed me to change my narrative about losing my virginity, which was, if you recall, lackluster, to speaking of my sexual debut as those initial joyful masturbation under the faucet experiences, and then my first oral sex experiences, most of which were really exciting and delightful.

[00:26:34] I didn’t really start loving penetrative sex until well into my thirties, and I didn’t start getting the most sensation until the past few years. So if I had considered that to be the real sex, the only real sex, I’d have continued to be disappointed in my sex life altogether. 

[00:26:55] I once recorded with a woman named Marcia B., Sex Educator, co-founder of Cuddle Party. She told me, “There are so many cherries to be popped.” What if we thought of it that way? How many first times there are to be had! I stopped calling it, “losing my virginity” because virginity is a made up thing used to sell women into marriage for more land, or more cows. And also I didn’t lose anything. There was nothing for me to lose by becoming sexually active. So I stopped saying “When I lost my virginity” and started saying “When I had my sexual debut,” and now I can tell you about so many different sexual debuts: my threesome debut, my double penetration debut, my first time playing at a sex party while watching other people have sex debut.

[00:27:49] I could tell you about the early ones too, with the delicious stream of water from my bathroom faucet at age 9, side by side frottage, or rubbing our genitals against something with bean bag chairs around the age of 10. Kissing in my backyard hammock at 11, giving oral sex at 15, and being told I was really good at it, “Are you sure you haven’t done this before?” Receiving it at 16 and oh my God, the glory! And then, the one you already know about, penetrative vaginal sex, penis-in-vagina, or p-in-v as it’s sometimes called, at 19 years old. 

[00:28:30] So here’s my current working definition of sex: Sex is an act of deliberate, consensual, arousing, eroticism.

[00:28:41] Deliberate: it’s gotta be chosen in sound mind. Otherwise, it’s not sex, it’s something else. If there isn’t consent, we call this something else assault, but I must take a moment here. This is incredibly important. To distinguish this from a massive gray area. I learned from the sex scientist and researcher, Dr. Zhana Vrangalova, That sex exists on a four point graph. 

[00:29:06] Imagine a diamond shaped graph or a square turned on its point with two axes from top to bottom and left to right. Sex exists not just on a spectrum from consensual to non-consensual, but also from wanted to unwanted. This means that a sex act can be unwanted, and yet consensual. 

[00:29:34] PRIDE 13: I think I’m gonna say it again for what I want it to be, but I think I would desire it to be a consensual act with feeling. Like, if there’s no feeling behind it, then screw it. It’s not sex, because I shouldn’t have to consider the times that I was sexually assaulted sex, and those were penetration. So I think consent combined with intimacy or just an exchange of feelings and energy. 

[00:30:09] LILA: I think I heard you say that desire has to be involved. Is that true for you? 

[00:30:14] PRIDE 13: Yes. Because I’ve definitely had meaningless air quote “sex”, but I don’t wanna consider that sex. Recently I’ve been thinking a lot about like Body Count and like, I don’t want to consider all of those times sex because some of those things meant so much, like drastically more to me on the inside than, say, an exchange where I did not get to consent or one where I just straight up wasn’t into it, or if it was just an impulsive decision. 

[00:30:43] LILA: So what could we call those times? 

[00:30:47] PRIDE 13: Rape. Um, well, not all of them. Um. Rape and mistakes due to a bunch of, like the perfect storm kind of, of just like having nothing to do and not knowing kind of my own value. Like, I feel like I’ve given myself away to like so many people in times that I realized later I didn’t want to have given myself away to them. So I’ve been kind of trying to cope with that as, uh, just trying to reclaim it as it should be something that I desire, and, um, consent to. 

[00:31:30] LILA: Many of the most confusing sex acts of my life, and our time, were consensual yet unwanted. Or consensual and wanted in the moment, but later deemed unwanted, and after the fact labeled non-consensual. Unwanted sex isn’t the same as non-consensual sex. This makes the matter more complicated. 

[00:31:55] PRIDE 13: I have had sex that is unwanted and unconsensual, but there’s definitely times where I just started and I consented, but then midway through realize this isn’t something that I wanna be carrying out. I’m not into this. And also some of that had to do with sexuality and then had me going home questioning whether I was attracted to men, whether I was attracted to women, whether I was asexual. I feel like because of that, for me, like I feel like anyone can have any sort of intimate exchange with whoever they would please, but my personal experience, I think I need to know that person and really want to share, like a vulnerable moment with them. Otherwise, I’ll end up thinking, Yeah, this is something that I wanna do. It sounds exciting, it sounds fun, and I’ll, I’ll get like excited about it. And then midway through it, I feel bad. And I don’t wanna say to them like, I don’t wanna keep having sex. I don’t wanna say to them, You did this and it turned me off, or, I’m gonna block you when I go home after this. 

[00:32:57] LILA: The last piece of my definition is arousing, arousing eroticism. If it doesn’t turn us on, then, I don’t wanna consider it sex. 

Field recording at a Kostume Kult party @ 3 Dollar Bill in Bushwick // Brooklyn, NY July 2022

[00:33:06] Deliberate, consensual, arousing, eroticism. All definitions I’ve ever heard have a flaw. Mine for instance, doesn’t distinguish kink work from sex, which is a crucial distinction for many workers because sex work is still legal in most of the United States, and many, if not most professional kinksters have a boundary around having sex with clients. Still, deliberate, consensual arousing eroticism is the most expansive definition I’ve encountered. So that is the understanding from which this show will operate. At least that’s the understanding we’ll begin from, because we’re all open to learn. 

[00:33:49] Here’s what we stand to gain by expanding our definition: More sex! More pleasure! Inclusivity! Positive regard for the nearly limitless palette of the erotic. 

[00:34:02] This is a sex-positive show and it stands for a sex-positive world, a world that celebrates how we sex, who we sex, and when we choose to sex them, including if our choices, no one and never, or only ever with myself. A world that celebrates how we relationship, who we relationship with, and how many people are involved, which also includes if our choice is not at all and zero partners or self partnered. 

[00:34:33] An honest, medically accurate, pleasure-informed sex and body education is currently a privilege, but it should be a right. Sex positivity isn’t promiscuity. It is an affirmation of the greatest luxury of all: choice. And the breathtakingly electric aliveness that is possible when we engage with our own eroticism in the way that we and our partners want, not the way society or Disney or porn or religion or our families have told us we should. 

[00:35:09] We can have such thoroughly erotic lives: more happiness in our relationships, less sexless romances, less resentment, no shame! 

[00:35:20] And that’s what I hope this show will begin to do for you: help you to make sex what you want it to be full of pleasure, free of shame, in as great or as little an amount as you desire. 

[00:35:35] That’s what I want for myself, and if you want that, that’s what I want for you. 

[00:35:41] And that: is positively sex.

[00:35:44] PS! A couple of weeks ago, post-coital in Brooklyn, in my lover’s bedroom, I was looking out another window. This time over the treetops that grow in Brooklyn, across the backyards and out to the open sky. I had had multiple orgasms. It was love making and it was fucking, it was everything, it was everything that I could possibly desire. It was all the movies, it was all the books, it was all the poems. It was everything. It was one of the most beautiful experiences of my whole life. And I looked out the window and I thought, Yeah, that’s it. That’s sex.

[00:36:52] PRIDE 9: Sex is magical. Sex is beautiful. Sex is magnificent. Sex is something between two people that brings them closer together. Sex is intimacy. Sex is getting to know someone, being with them, sharing with them. 

[00:37:10] Sex is life.

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See that resting frown face on my mom as she slept See that resting frown face on my mom as she slept?

I’ve started to make that same face. I wake from a dream or a doze to find that I’m frowning. I touch my lips to make it stop. After a few moments, I discover that they are making the frown shape again. I can’t make it stop because I’m sleeping when I do it. I’ve started doing it when I’m not sleeping too. When I’m awake, I think it’s a cross between a grimace and a frown. A frimace? (I mean, it can’t be a grown. Or can it?)

I don’t really have that much to frown about anymore, except, I suppose, for the onslaught of fresh horrors perpetrated by the country I live in on the daily, the greed of the few and desperation of the many, the natural disasters that are frequenter and hotter and wetter and gnarlier as the earth continues its job of beginning to shake us off its back… yeah I guess there’s not much to frown about, really. 

I took Mom to FloridaRAMA because she had been complaining for months that she didn’t do anything anymore. She mentioned concerts, plays, ballets. But by the time the sun went down, she would be sundowning and wouldn’t want to go anywhere anyway. So that afternoon I decided to pick her up and take her on an outing — which was always a pain in the ass, and especially a pain in the ass to do solo. It involved going to her room and making sure she was dressed, convincing her to get dressed if she wasn’t, which was a laborious process, insisting that we needed to take the wheelchair which of course we did because she was falling all the time and brachiating (holding onto walls and less sturdy things like chairs, tables — at least, some nurse told me that this is what it’s called but the internet seems to only relate it to apes swinging from their arms to get from place to place) […]

Continued on horizontalwithlila dot substack dot com (the link is in my bio)
In the bathroom of the Italian restaurant after Da In the bathroom of the Italian restaurant after Dad’s cold rainy rural upstate funeral looking like a sad British clown / Nowhere, NY / April 12th, 2025

Right after my father died, there were Anthonys and Tonys everywhere. 

Suddenly everyone was called Tony and everybody else was talking about their Dad or playing songs about death. 

* Passing a girl on the street talking to her friend, and the only words you catch are “My dad had…” 
* Walking into your favorite gluten-free café, and they’re playing the Flaming Lips song “Do You Realize?”

Do you realize / that everyone you know / someday / will die?

* Realizing that the second title for Billy Joel’s song “Movin’ Out” is “Anthony’s Song.” I never truly registered this until I was trying to write one morning in a blessed cacao shop (yes, for real) and I paused to listen to the opener:

Anthony works in the grocery store
Savin’ his pennies for someday

* Ordering fries from the surfer guy at the beach shack on my pilgrimage to the ocean, when his co-worker shouts, “Hey Anthony!”

If you put this stuff in your feature film script, your screenwriting teacher would tell you it’s too pat, too predictable, “don’t put a hat on a hat.” (The Writer!)

It’s like that old quarters experiment on attention… you start looking for quarters on the ground, and suddenly, you see them everywhere.

The drugstores full of Father’s Day crap. Marketing emails about “Dads and grads.” Only one company sent an email that said, Hey, we know that Father’s Day time is tough for some people, so click this to opt out of all Father’s Day related emails.

Click. CLICK!

I wish I could click that link for the universe. No father stuff, please. No Dad shit. But there were quarters everywhere, of course, because the back of my mind was attuned to all things Dad.

{You can read the rest of the essay on Substack. Link in my bio, bb.}
Love Letter to New York, whom I miss so much 1. S Love Letter to New York, whom I miss so much

1. Straight out of a fitting for “The Deuce”?

2. Free Friday at @whitneymuseum 

3. Basquiat makes me feel like home

4. Madison Square Park photo op (irresistible)

5. Candid

6. Got to see the lovely @josescaro & @benbecherny ply their craft at @bricktheater 

7. Charming marquee!

8. Closing night vibes (not pictured: the succulent plant I brought in lieu of flowersof)

9. Chuck Close in the subway!

10. More subway Chuck Close!

11. Man Ray retrospective at the Met

12. Love a good silhouette

13. A rare VERTICAL bathroom portrait in one of the finest bathrooms of them all, at the lovely New Mexican food joint with the rainbow cookies Of My Dreams, @ursula_brooklyn 

14. My man is a photographer too. 🤩

15. Cannot. Resist. Photo Booth.
I wrote a list in 2020 titled “How to love me wh I wrote a list in 2020 titled “How to love me when I’m ... depressed”... and in this essay, I encourage you to write your own version (How to love me when I’m... anxious, How to love me when I’m... burned out, How to love me when I’m... in despair)...

And if you write one, how I would love to read it. (Or even learn about one of the items on your list, here in the comments).

Here’s an excerpt:

 “One of the characteristics of my depression (and most of my other tizzies, such as but not limited to anxiety, severe procrastination, adulting paralysis, etc.) is that while I’m in it I have no idea what — if anything — will help me get out of it.

It’s more like I DON’T WANT TO BE HERE BUT I DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT SO I’LL JUST HIDE UNDER THE COVERS UNTIL I WANT TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN CALL ME IN 6 MONTHS.

Ergo, therefore, if I’m in a state, and you ask me what I need, or what you can do, I may or may not have the wherewithal to tell you. Emphasis on the not. I may not even have the wherewithal to know.

And if I don’t know, how can I tell you?

I can’tdon’t, then.

If I’m not in a state I probably have plenty of things I could say but that’s when I don’t need the help so badly. (A lá it’s not the worst while you can still say the worst.)

As I mentioned in the subtitle: You don’t come with an operator’s manual. Your model came out of the fleshbox with zero instructions. And since no one possesses your operator’s manual, no matter how much they love you, you are going to be the supreme author, the expert on you, since you’ve been studying you your whole life. Please for the love of Pete & Ashleigh, do your people the great good turn of writing them some instructions. Triage options, if you will. Trust me when I say that they (nearly all of them) need it.

If you write it for them, they will have it when you need it.

This little list could, quite without exaggeration, save your life.”

The link to the whole essay is in my bio. (Join me on Substack darling!)

#substack #substackwriter #depressionandanxiety #communityiseverything
Love Letter to St. Pete @stpetefl Where we met, Love Letter to St. Pete @stpetefl 

Where we met, where we re-met ❤️‍🔥

1. An afternoon at @grandcentralbrewhouse with my handsome gentleman in @warbyparker 

2. Bb’s first @nineinchnails concert (okay, technically in Tampa) in @selkie & @viveylife . It was stellar. Trent sounds just like he used to and the projections were gorgeous!

3. Matching denim jumpsuits ( but his is a @onepiece )

4. The finest pizza in all the land (even with my dietary restrictions!) from @noblecrust (OMNOMNOMNOM)

5. He even makes doctor’s appointments fun.

6. I love matching him sooooo muchmuch. 

7. Just us and a zebra, nbd.

8. Theme Park joy

9. At the art show @wadastpete that my gentleman curated for his students. 🪐☄️🛸👽🚀✨
When I was a kid, I used to read myself to sleep. When I was a kid, I used to read myself to sleep. 

Actually, I don’t know when I stopped.

I read myself to sleep in my childhood bedroom, with a flashlight under the covers of a trundle bed (drawers filled to the brim with dress-up clothes) when my mom said it was too late to be awake. I checked out 25 books from the Freeport library at a time, filling the trunk of my parent’s car, and devoured them in weeks, partly from my perch in the flowering dogwood tree in our backyard (were the blooms ivory? or cherry blossom pink?), partly while curled up on an orange-and-yellow-ticked seat cushion I dragged down to the crawlspace in the basement — my “secret hiding spot,” which was neither secret nor hidden and so can only be termed a spot, armed with Oreos and flashlight, and the remainder under the covers before bed.

I suspect I knew more words then than I know now. There are still words like “vehement” that I’m only about 70% sure I know how to pronounce. I learned them in context. I can spell them. I can use them in a sentence! But am I saying them correctly? 

Unsure.

I read myself to sleep in high school, even though I had to get up unconscionably early to get bussed in to my magnet program — Pinellas County Center for the Arts — 35 minutes away from our sad little apartment. Like a magnet, @pcca_gibbs PCCA grabbed young artists from the whole county.

I had a major in high school, which is more usual now, from what I hear, but wasn’t so usual then, and what I majored in was called Performance Theatre (as opposed to Musical Theatre, the love of my life I never thought I was good enough for). 

I really wanted to go to the Fame school in New York — LaGuardia — but when I was 12 my Mom divorced my Dad and forced me to move to Flah-rida. So I went to PCCA instead. (To be honest, she probably wouldn’t have let me commute into the city to go to Fame even if we had stayed on Long Island.) 

Read the whole essay (link to Substack in my bio)!

#booknerdlife #readingforpleasure #readingrainbow
My man and I got our nerd on at @nerdnitestpete ! My man and I got our nerd on at @nerdnitestpete ! 

We had the opportunity to support my lovely, engaging, and compassionate Happiness Ambassador friend Adam Peters aka @mindmaprenovations as he changed some lives by teaching us how to begin developing a preference for positivity. I’ve seen him give this presentation a few times before, and this was the best one yet — and to the biggest crowd, over 300 human nerds!

I love us.

I consider it my sacred duty to paparazzi my friends when they do marvelous things, as I hope to have done unto me!

P.S. Applied to give a Nerd Nite presentation myself … fingers crossed bb’s! 

1. My gentleman is so handsome. (Also, I got this stellar skirt in excellent condition from my favorite thrift store with a cause @casapinellas !)

2. Toasties supporting Toasties! @dtsptoastmasters members: me, Steve Diasio, Dawn Cecil (two-time Nerd Nite Speaker alumni!), & Rick! (Not pictured here — but later in the carousel) Christian Carrasco.

3. Fit check baybeeee.

4. Caryn, Nerd Nite boss extraordinaire, introducing the evening.

5. Caryn introducing my friend Adam (did I yell “THAT’S MY FRIEND!” at the end? WHY YES I DID.)

6-10. Adam rocking the casbah.

11. Fellow Toastmaster Christian.

12. I love mein mann!

#nerdnite #nerdnitestpete
A woman approached me. We collaborated once, a yea A woman approached me. We collaborated once, a year prior, I think. Time is weird. She reached out both her hands.

“What a beautiful mourner you are,” she said.

I took her hands.

I think I said thank you.

She was referring, I suppose, to the gloves, the dress, the shoes, the lipstick, the earrings. 

But what does it mean, to be a beautiful mourner? 
What does it mean to mourn beautifully? 
To have good grief?

“My dad dropped dead,” I said, to get myself used to the shock of it. 

“My mother is dying,” I said, to reconcile myself to the fact of it. 

I don’t wear mascara anymore, because I cry every day.

People hugged me in airports, at rental car counters, in line for a sandwich. They hugged me in the TSA line. At the chiropractor. The grocery store. My father dropped dead, I told them. My mother is dying. I told them and they hugged me. I was glad I did. I was glad they did.

Sometimes, when people were truly asking, if I had the time, and I had the spoons, I repeated my litany of 2025. So they’d understand: it has been this kind of year. It seems that everyone has this kind of year at some point, or, devastatingly, at several points in a life — a maelstrom, a dervish, a crucible, a nexus, a whammy, a time — an Alexander’s-no-good-very-bad-terrible kind of year. 

There were so many months in February. So many years in April. So many decades in the first half of 2025. I didn’t want to become an adult, but 2024 made me, and 2025 sealed the deal. 

It’s amazing I managed to get this far without growing up.

READ the whole essay on Substack
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#substackwriters #goodgrief
Love in La La Land 1. “So this is where they ke Love in La La Land

1. “So this is where they keep the LIGHT!” -SATC … At our first @lacma member preview, enjoying the majestically empty Geffen galleries before the permanent collections moves in.

2. Urban Light, and me (installation by Chris Burden)

3. A historic view at LACMA, never again to be seen!

4 - 13. Art, mostly part of the Digital Witness exhibit

14. Love at the @gettymuseum 

15. Queer exhibits! 

16. Sunset at the Getty with my love

#museumnerd #lacma #lacmamember #digitalwellness #thegetty #loveinlalaland
For you, when you need it, and for the people in y For you, when you need it, and for the people in your life, when they need it.

Here’s an excerpt from the essay:

[To read the whole thing, follow the link in my bio to my Substack (and subscribe there, darling)!]

My chiropractor called me out a few weeks back. 
He said, with his characteristic smile (he has nice little teeth), “I read your essay.”

“You did? Thank you for reading,” I began, genuinely surprised and moved.

“But I still don’t know what to say!” he admonished. “You only told us what not to say!” 

Then he gave me an enormous cashmere-scented candle in a plastic bag. 

This was not apropos of nothing. I mentioned that scent in the essay. 

That giant cashmere candle, so big it has not one but FOUR wicks, means something. And then he had to go and ruin it. (jk, jk, Dr. Brian!)

“Hang in there,” he said, at the end of our session.

I cringed a liddle. (That’s not a little, not a lot, it’s right in the middle, a liddle.)

But you see, he was completely right! I told him I’d give him a list! I hadn’t given him a list! So I began compiling. Every time someone said a thing that made me wince, it went on the list, which lead to Part 1: What NOT to say when someone dies.

Each time someone said a thing that felt like love, made me farklempt, I took a screenshot, and it went on the list. 

This is the farklempt list.

As I wrote in “what NOT to say,” the useful things people say are fairly varied (and tailored to the griever), while the un-useful things tend to be generic variations on a tired theme.
“what TO say” will be a living document, updated whenever I have something useful, or supremely un-useful, to add. Here we go.
Love in Louisville. 1. Photo credit to my love, Love in Louisville.

1.  Photo credit to my love, Zachary

2.  Selfie with Street Art by the windy, windy river

3.  Horsies! Street Art! (Do you know how much I love murals?!)

4.  Looking like an award-winning art teacher at the art teacher conference (ahem, he is the award-winning art teacher!), wearing a @riskgalleryboutique necklace & big fcking bow!)

5.  A Wizard interlude! What a delight to witness my friend @personisawake absolutely Rock @cm_louisville & inspire a roomful of humans

6.  When your love matches the art. 🖼️ *chef’s kiss*

7 & 8. Major interior design maxi inspo for my ADU reno from @21clouisville by @fallen_fruit 🌺🌷🌸🌻🌼💐🪷

9.  The crayon shirt, bow, and soft rainbow chiclet necklace style brought to you by my inner 6-year old!

#ilovelouisville #wizardry #creativemornings #21clouisville #21c
The video clip of me in the yellow dress and anthr The video clip of me in the yellow dress and anthropology-professor blazer is an excerpt from second iteration of my talk, “The Intimacy Equation,” which I first gave as part of the @bof VOICES conference, outside London in 2021. 

This rendition had a test-drive at my Toastmasters meeting last week. Imperfect, unrehearsed, delivered from bullet points with a slim little notebook in my hand… and yet, I have shared it with my paid subscribers over on Substack (link in bio) because I want to be a person who shares process, not just product.

(This is a bit of a coup for my recovering inner perfectionist, and I have to say, I’m a wee bit proud.)

I kept my fancy equation. 

But now I have a simple one, too. 

#toastmasters #publicspeaking #intimacycoach
More Chiro Office Portraits: 1. NY vibes in the 6 More Chiro Office Portraits:

1. NY vibes in the 6th borough

2. Googly eyes in @selkie 

3. Bossbitch even when she doesn’t get the grant

4. Started practicing yoga again did I tell you?

5. Big mad (but not at that yellow two-piece thrift score from @casapinellas !)

6. Sporty Spice (obsessed with that @tottobrand bag)

7. Grumpy girl, big bow

8. Resort style bb!

9. Sad girl lemonade

10. @selkie ballerina

11. Bridgerton on a no-makeup day (also @selkie )

12. The day I picked up my mother’s ashes (still haven’t opened them)

13. @temperleylondon & mourning
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Funeral ( A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Funeral (excerpt)

It was the night before Craig’s memorial, and I had an audition due. 

It was a feature film audition, due at 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern. This happened to be squarely during the memorial. I was playing an elementary school teacher, and so when I packed in a whirl for New York, I grabbed my crayon shirt and a giant hair bow and figured surely I’d be able to wangle a human into helping me with my self-tape. New York is my hometown! So many potential wangles! Right?

Two nights prior, out with my friend @kristianndances , no stranger to auditions herself, I had an invitation to her Brooklyn apartment to get’er’done, but, you see, I didn’t have the shirt with me. And friend, if you pack your crayon shirt to audition for Miss Kelly the elementary school teacher then frankly, no other shirt will do.

Since I was staying with another friend, I asked him to help me, but he wasn’t available until the morning. 

The morning of the memorial. 

{ continued on horizontalwithlila.substack.com }
Just out here looking like the Pride Statue of Lib Just out here looking like the Pride Statue of Liberty.

Remember, I promised the good people of @stpetefl that if they gave me another limited edition Pride flag, I would wear it as a dress. @stpetepride 

AND SO I HAVE.

The Pride Market at Grand Central today was full of rainbows and swag and glitter, just the way I like it.

I love us all.

And I look forward to the day when all any of us need, is love. Because we’ve got plenty of that to go around.

#stpetepride #stpetefl
POV: When your friend is one of the great young ja POV: When your friend is one of the great young jazz guitarists, but you haven’t seen him play in a decade (except for that time last month when he accompanied you to sing at your mother’s funeral). What a mensch. What a band!

#natenajar
I’m just gonna leave this here. My fave sign at I’m just gonna leave this here.

My fave sign at @blackcrowcoffeeco 

Apropos of Everything.

#stpetepride 
#transrightsarehumanrights 
#blacklivesmatter 
#notinourname
Excerpt: You can even make a difference through sm Excerpt: You can even make a difference through small acts of resistance, ones that annoy or befuddle the evildoers, like witty and nonsensical emails to awful government agencies, clowns showing up outside imm!gration hearings, giant group dances in front of vile businesses. We can find a thousand little ways to gum up the works. Bonus to you if it makes you laugh. Bonus to everyone if it makes others laugh. The Resistance doesn’t have to be stodgy. 

We, like the Dark Side, can have cookies. 
We, unlike the Dark Side, can have joy.
But we MUST PROTEST in some fashion.

When I protest, I don’t want to do so by:

- Shaming the physical appearance of the evildoer
- Slut-shaming the evildoer
- Shaming their nationality, sexuality, identity, profession
- Talking about what they smell like
- Threatening murder or castration or people’s families

I completely understand why we do this, or at least, I think I understand why we are tempted to do this. We want to bully the bully, thinking that’s the only way he’ll understand. But the truth is that he’s probably not going to understand, whether or not we stoop to the low ground. He’s not going to understand because he is likely a sociopath. 

But we’re not doing it for him. We’re not pr0testing for him. 
We are pr0testing for Ian in Iowa who is a bit messed up and kind of confused and doesn’t really get the impact that this is having on, say, WOMEN, who opens up his news app and sees thousands upon thousands of, let’s just say women, pr0testing with signs, and maybe he goes, hm, why might they be pr0testing when they could be home having pancakes? Why might that be? And maybe Ian gets a little more informed that day about the plight of, hell, let’s say, women, and maybe just maybe he starts to act a wee bit differently, and then the whole butterfly effect thing is possible.

When pr0testing evildoing in its many many oppressive forms, I want to focus on their harmful ACTIONS, and CHOICES. 

I want them to rot for being rotten.

I’m interested in dismantling their ARGUMENTS
Proving false their IDEOLOGIES
Laying bare their HYPOCRISIES
Exploiting their INCONSISTENCIES
Disproving their FALSEHOODS

Cont’d on Substack
I want to share with you something in the famous @ I want to share with you something in the famous @elizabeth_gilbert_writer speech on creativity. It’s one of the most famous @ted talks in the world, and she talks about how ideas come to people. 

The way that I, that ideas come to me, is I will get a line of something and then I will get another line, and then I get nervous because I, if I get a third line, I might be okay, but the fourth line is gonna push the first line completely out. And it’s gone. 

So I have to, I have to get my, to my paper. I have to get to my paper and I have to write it down or, or, or whatever it is, my notes app in my phone, anything. I have to get it down or I’ll lose it. 

She talks about @tomwaits the famoso musician, driving in his car and a bit of melody comes to him. And he goes, “Can’t you see I’m driving? If you wanna exist, go bother somebody else. Go bother Leonard Cohen or somebody.” 

I don’t suggest you talk to your creativity that way, because as Elizabeth Gilbert likes to say, it is like a cat and it doesn’t understand you and your face looks funny when you do that. 

[4 of 5] 

The speech is available in bits here, or in its entirety on my horizontal with lila Substack — link in my bio. Love you. Go make art.
These are a few of my notebooks from over the year These are a few of my notebooks from over the years. Here are a few more. You’re invited to flip through them. These are my (not so private anymore) ideas, thoughts, classes, poems. I have no idea what you’re looking at. I don’t even remember most of what’s in these notebooks. But they’re there, because I captured them.

Anybody have a date in theirs? There should be dates. Can you call it out? 

[people call out dates]

So this is my work! Beginning in 2009 was the, the earliest date. There is so much that comes out of a creative brain, and I know that your brain is not dissimilar. I know that you are all creative beings.

One of my favorite books on creativity, and I don’t know if it’s been mentioned tonight because sadly I missed the first part, but it is a book called “bird by bird.” 

Oh, I didn’t mention it, but I love that book. 

By Anne Lamott. Are you the only one who’s read it? Has anybody else read this book? “bird by bird” It is one of only two books on creativity I would actually recommend. Otherwise, I would recommend you just go out and make stuff. 

In this book, she says, and I have carried this quote with me because I have been this way throughout... I mean, it must be... it’s, it’s my entire remembered life, it could be as young as 5 years old, a perfectionist. She says, “Perfectionism is the voice of the oppressor. It will keep you cramped and insane your entire life.” 

The voice of the oppressor. 

I think about that all the time. I do not want to be oppressed. No! Viva la revolución! You know, I don’t want that for myself. And so I have been internally oppressing myself. Most of what you see in these books, and that’s not all of them, right? And that’s only from 2009. Most of what you’ve seen in these books has not seen the light of day. 

[3 of 5] Full “Are you an artist, tho?” video & transcript on Substack

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